Jihadi terrorist? No. Call him hirabist (barbaric pirate).
June 2, 2008 Op-Ed Contributors (New York Times)
What Do You Call a Terror(Jihad)ist?
By P. W. SINGER and ELINA NOOR
IMAGINE if Franklin D. Roosevelt had taken to calling Adolf Hitler the “leader of the National Socialist Aryan patriots” or dubbed Japanese soldiers fighting in World War II as the “defenders of Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.”
To describe the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese Army in terms that incorporated their own propaganda would have been self-defeating. Unfortunately, that is what many American policymakers have been doing by calling terrorists “jihadists” or “jihadis.”
While the State Department recently circulated an internal memo advising foreign service officers to avoid such terms, President Bush, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and members of the news media continue to use them.
The word “jihad” means to “strive” or “struggle,” and in the Muslim world it has traditionally been used in tandem with “fi sabilillah” (“in the path of God”). The term has long been taken to mean either a quest to find one’s faith or an external fight for justice. It makes sense, then, for terrorists to associate themselves with a term that has positive connotations. For the United States to support them in that effort, however, is a fundamental strategic mistake.
First, to call a terrorist a “jihadist” or “jihadi” effectively puts any campaign against terrorism into the framework of an existential battle between the West and Islam. This feeds into the worldview propagated by Al Qaeda. It also serves to isolate the tens of millions of Muslims who condemn the violence that has been perpetrated in the name of Islam.
Second, these words locate the ideological battle exactly where the extremists want it to be. The terms of discussion are no longer about the murder of innocents in terrorist acts; they are about theology.
Third, when American leaders use this language it sends a confusing message to the Muslim world, showing ignorance on basic issues and possibly even raising doubts about American motives. Why, after all, would we call our enemy a “holy warrior”?
If we want to say what we mean, what terms better describe Qaeda members and other violent extremists? “Muharib” or the more colloquial “hirabi” or “hirabist” would be good places to start. “Hirabah,” the base word, is a term for barbarism or piracy. Unlike “jihad,” which grants honor, “hirabah” brings condemnation; it involves unlawful violence and disorder.
Of course, it’s probably best not to engage in these nuances at all. Which is why American leaders would do best to call terrorists by their rightful name: “terrorists.” The label may seem passé, but terrorism is an internationally recognized word for an internationally recognized crime. If we want to win a war of words, we would do well to choose the ones we use with greater care.
P. W. Singer is a fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington. Elina Noor is an analyst at the Institute of Strategic and International Studies in Malaysia.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/02/opinion/02singer.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Subj: Dodging the Islamic-Jehad will not save the Hindu
1. Demonstration against religious cleansing by Kashmiri Islamists
Venue: High Commission of India, India House, Aldwych
Time: 2pm on Thursday 14th August
Kashmiri Pandits have been ethnically cleansed from their homeland by an evil ideology of Islamists and to which the Government of India has bowed out of fear for the last 60 years.

Last month these Islamists have denied the fundamental right of Hindus to visit their sacred pilgrimage, Amarnaath, in their own homeland of Kashmir.
A Spate of attacks has begun again against the homes of innocent Hindus who ask for the safety of their sacred Pilgrimages and the visiting Pilgrims.
The Indo European Kashmir Forum (IEKF), supported by Hindu Council UK, condemns this violent ideology of Islamists and further it condemns the Government of India for not protecting the peaceful rights of all its citizens.
2. My Take:
The Sullas of Kashmir have been carrying out their Jehadic-war, against the Kafir-Hindus with active support from Pakistan & other Islamic countries. These Moslem-Mujahdeens have been giving sleepless nights, even to the Hindus of Jammu ( a Hindu majority area of Kashmir ). Hindus so far have tried to dispel this Jehadic violence, by trying to dodge it. But this Islamic hatred of Kafirs, cannot be dispelled, by simply dodging it. It has to be confronted squarely with steady hands and with resoluteness of the mind. A conciliatory attitude on the Hindu, achieves not a damn thing.
3. Moslems are told that, killing a Kafir is a sure passport to Janat ( Moslem’s Paradise ). He who kills a Kafir, goes to Janat. If instead of confronting Islam, we try to dodge it, we do a moronic act, and are inviting the slaughter of the Hindu. It is the conciliatory attitude of the Hindu, that has been letting the Hindu down, for the last 1200 years. I hope the Hindu learns from his past mistakes.
4. Another mistake that the Hindu makes, is sending appeals to the government of Kashmir, to the government of India, & even to the UNO, to break the strangle-hold of Islam, over the life and fortunes of the Hindus of Kashmir. Instead of taking charge of his own destiny, the Hindu has been depending on others, to solve his problems. The Hindu so far has not realized that, Hinduism Defense is the job of the Hindu. No body else, nor any divine power is going to save the Hindus of Kashmir, or the Hindus of India. The Hindu has to be become more assertive, even more aggressive. That is about the size of it.
5. Hindus of the world: Make no mistake about it. The Hindu society is under siege, not only in Kashmir, but in the rest of India as well. The politics of Phoney-Liberalism is striving to throttle, Hinduism out of existence. The brave Hindus must recognize the dire future of the Hindu, and take prompt steps to reverse this trend, by taking charge of his destiny, and by being prepared to pay the price of Hinduism defense. It is a simple choice.
Surinder Paul Attri
Subj: Murder of Swami Lakshmanananda & four others
1. Jelaspota (Orissa), August 28: While violence rages across Kandhamal district, in the ashram, where its spark was lit when Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati and four others were killed on August 24, the adults are angry, the children traumatised.
Many of the 130 girls in the Kanya Ashram, a residential school on the campus, were eyewitnesses to the killing of the VHP leader and that incident has burnt memories they will never forget.
"First, we thought someone is bursting crackers and so we ran towards the main gate. Then we saw and heard people screaming and running. There was blood all over the place. Swamiji and Mataji and others were lying in blood. I shouted and ran away, we all started running here and there," said 15-year old Anita Pradhan. She is from Raikia and has been in the ashram for three years.
According to Anita, it was around 7 in the evening, prayer time in the students' quarters. Swamiji and Mataji Bhaktimoyee, head of the girls hostel, were inside Swamiji's room adjacent to the main entrance.
According to eyewitnesses, 10 to 15 men climbed the wall and started firing indiscriminately. They first shot dead Amritanandji, a disciple of Swamiji. The attackers then entered a small room, home to Prabhati Ganta, the guardian of one of the students who was living there. They shot him, too. Later, Kishore Baba, a resident of Boudh, was shot just outside this room.
It was then that they broke open Saraswati's room. "Swamiji ran into the toilet to save himself and shut the door. Mataji, who hid behind the door, was shot first. The miscreants then broke open the toilet door and sprayed bullets," said an eyewitness.
Vijaylaxmi Mullick, a Class X student at the ashram, is too traumatised to narrate the incident. Her voice trembles and falters as she remembers. "I rushed towards the main gate along with others only to see some men running around and loud cracking noise. I heard the cries of Swamiji and others. I saw other Swamijis running here and there. I was scared and ran inside the hostel room with another girl. We sat huddled together. Until after a long time, one of the Swamijis came and escorted us out of the room."
Kusum Pradhan, a Class 6 student, could not venture out of her hostel room after dark following the incident. "I too rushed out after hearing the noise. I saw bodies lying in blood. I touched Swamiji's feet, who was lying in the bathroom. It was still warm but he did not move. Nor did Mataji, who lay inside the room," was all Kusum could say.
The 130 girls, who now reside inside the hostels of the sprawling ashram, now cannot venture out. The ashram is guarded by CRPF and Orissa police constables. The girls' relatives are unable to visit the ashram and take them home because of the violence and the ongoing curfew in the district.
Brahmachari Shankar Chaitanya, who is now in charge of the ashram and is always escorted by police constables and CRPF personnel, seethes with anger against both Christians and the state government. "We had written 30 times to the state government that Swamiji's and our lives were at stake, that we were being threatened by Christian leaders. Before the incident, we got a letter threatening to kill Swamiji. We formally complained to the police and district authorities. They sent only four baton-wielding constables," said Shankar Chaitanya. "Not a single minister visited us after the incident, not even of our BJP. The Collector comes sometimes. He gave us rice, dal and sugar for the children."
Chaitanya alleged that it was Christians, not Maoists, who were responsible for the incident. "The Maoists can never do this. It is Christians who threaten us everyday and they did this," he said. He alleged that the ashram has been kept out of the peace process. "No one called us for any meeting or to take part in any peace process. As long as are kept out, the violence will continue."
2. My Take:
Yes, it is the Christians who murdered Swami Lakshmanananda & four others, and not the Maoists. There are strong dogmatic reasons for this, based on the belief system of Christianity.
Behind the long-time Christian-Aggression , against the Hindus of Orissa ( and of elsewhere ), is their traditional belief that, Non-Christian Heathens ( Hindus included ) are gong to Hell, to meet the Devil. Their reason for wanting to convert the Hindus to Christianity, is to save the Hindus from being sucked down to Hell. Since the Hindus have sinned repeatedly, they are on a fast track, to the subterranean domain of fire & brimstone.
3. What crimes have the Hindus committed that, the Christians should be riled to the old-impure thought, of murdering the Hindus ? Besides, the Devil is a totally-imaginary creature ( a creature of existence ), but the Christians have never been accused of being, either logical or terribly smart. Regardless, of being terribly illogical, they are sincerely concerned about saving the Heathen-Hindu, from the clutches of an imaginary-creature ( the Devil ), a creature of their own imagination. It proves a successful ruse to support, the Christian’s Barbarism, against the Heathen-Hindu.
4. There is no peaceful way for the Hindu, to deal with this kind of mindless hatred, of the Christian against the Hindu. Hindus really have no option but, to confront the barbarism of the Christian & devise appropriate counter-measures. On its part, the government ought to investigate the murder of Swami Lakshmananada, and instead of making politically-correct statements ( which are designed for vote-bank politics ), should go after those who murdered the Swami & four others. That is about the only thing, that will remove the terror that, is presently gripping the mind of the Hindu community.
Surinder Paul Attri
Subj: Response to Nishe Jee: 1
1.
Submitted by Nishi (India), Aug 27, 2008 at 23:20
Mahamahim Dear Sri S P Attri Ji Maharaj,
You wrote
"What I am saying is that:
Islam is evil
2. What I am saying is the Anti-thesis of Bush's dictum. I am not hiding behind political double-talk, but stating flat out that:
Islam is an Imperialist political ideology ( doctrine ). It is a lethal doctrine that has done colossal damage to innocent Kafir-Humanity, and will do more damage, as long as it survives.
The 1400 year old record of Islam, fully endorses my assertion."
Instead of saying much I only reitrate again that you are very deeply affected by 'Islamophobia'. You appear to be bigger threat to World Peace, because of your extremist & terrorising thoughts than Bush.
You appear to be an apologist belonging to the "Gang" which is treating Muslims & Islam as threat to their criminal Ideology of Hate, suppression of thoughts of Peace & equality etc.
May the Satan, in which you believe so immensly, leave your body & soul, to ALLOW YOU to return to the Path of love, peace, humanity, equality amongst all the people, as early as possible.
We all hope for the best of you in life, despite your criminal intent towards humanity & peace.
Submitted by Nishi (India), Aug 27, 2008 at 23:20
Mahamahim Dear Sri S P Attri Ji Maharaj,
You wrote
"What I am saying is that:
Islam is evil
2. What I am saying is the Anti-thesis of Bush's dictum. I am not hiding behind political double-talk, but stating flat out that:
Islam is an Imperialist political ideology ( doctrine ). It is a lethal doctrine that has done colossal damage to innocent Kafir-Humanity, and will do more damage, as long as it survives.
The 1400 year old record of Islam, fully endorses my assertion."
Instead of saying much I only reitrate again that you are very deeply affected by 'Islamophobia'. You appear to be bigger threat to World Peace, because of your extremist & terrorising thoughts than Bush.
You appear to be an apologist belonging to the "Gang" which is treating Muslims & Islam as threat to their criminal Ideology of Hate, suppression of thoughts of Peace & equality etc.
May the Satan, in which you believe so immensly, leave your body & soul, to ALLOW YOU to return to the Path of love, peace, humanity, equality amongst all the people, as early as possible.
We all hope for the best of you in life, despite your criminal intent towards humanity & peace.
2. My Take:
I generally ignore messages, where the disposition is on personal attacks or deal with them only, when I have nothing better to do.
Nishi Jee: You are transmitting mixed-signals.
One day you put me at the back of the bus, and call me Gadha.
Next day you place me at the front of the bus, and label me as Mahamahim.
3. Quote: Instead of saying much I only reitrate again that you are very deeply affected by 'Islamophobia'.
COMMENT: Nishi Jee: Read my previous message, where I elucidated my total-disconnect with Islamophobia.
4. Quote: You appear to be bigger threat to World Peace, because of your extremist & terrorising thoughts than Bush.
COMMENT: Nishi Jee: I expose Islam’s criminal wave of barbarism ( backed by 1400 years of Islamic history ), and its hostility to the Kafir humanity of the world. My objective is to protect innocent civilized Kafir-humanity of the world. Your description is completely-basackward.
5. Quote: You appear to be an apologist belonging to the "Gang" which is treating Muslims & Islam as threat to their criminal Ideology of Hate, suppression of thoughts of Peace & equality etc.
COMMENT: Nishi Jee: It is Islam that is conducting its Holy-War ( Jehad ), against Kafir-Humanity, to engender conquest of Kafir territories, & capture of Kafir property including Kafir women et al. Islam assigns to Moslems, a duty to conduct Jehad, to lead Islamic political revolution to final victory. It is Islam that is suppressing peace, equality, democracy or civilized treatment of humanity, including Islam’s degrading treatment of its women. I am only stripping Islam of its camouflage of peace, love, and brotherhood . Islam is exact-opposite.
6. Nish Jee: Do I need to describe the genocides that, Moslems have conducted in the name of Allah ? Or should I describe the degradation of women & the inferior position imposed on the women, by Islamic law ? Or should I describe the life of Hazrat Mohammad, to illustrate what kind of “ champion of feminism “
Hazrat Mohammad was ? Or should I relate that in Islam, in terms of inheritance, a woman has half the share of a man, and her vote counts for half that of a woman ?
If you examine Islam, with an open & relaxed mind, you will have hell of a time, warming up to Islam.
7. Quote: May the Satan, in which you believe so immensly, leave your body & soul, to ALLOW YOU to return to the Path of love, peace, humanity, equality amongst all the people, as early as possible.
COMMENT: Nishi Jee: Please don’t make me laugh. Satan ( Shaitaan ) is a totally-imaginary creature ( it is a creature of no-existence ). It is a creature of the imagination of Moslems. It is a self-created catastrophe & a self-created prison of the Moslems. Even your Allah cannot exorcise this imaginary creature, out of you or your co-religionists. Satan ( Shaitaan ) sizzles in Islam, all day long. If Moslems stopped believing in Shaitaan, it will change their life, and will take that much away, from their belief in Islam
I am certainly not a Moslem, and I have no connect with your Satan ( Shaitaan ).
8. Quote: We all hope for the best of you in life, despite your criminal intent towards humanity & peace.
COMMENT: No Nishi Jee: I have no evil intent toward humanity, not even you. I have nothing but warm regards for you.
Surinder Paul Attri
WHY ARE THE CHRISTIANS SO RILED UP ?
By S.P. Attri (USA )
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1. Why are the Christians of Orissa ( and of elsewhere ) so riled up ?
Because they thirst for their converts, which Swami Lakshamananda took away from them, by re-converting them back to Hinduism. These scum-bags of the earth do not even have decency. They gaze upon conversion, as a one-way street, where only they have rights & Hindus have none, where only they make the rules, Hindus simply obey their rules, and congratulate them on their conversion success. Since Swami Lakshmananda did not follow this line, he was marked for elimination, and was driven out of existence, right in front of a horrified crowd of Hindus. The account of their story, makes one’s flesh creep.
2. This riffraff ( Christian Missionaries ) is facing challenges on two fronts. The first is doctrinal, based on their belief in an imaginary creature, which they label as the Devil. Because they focus on this creature, it brings out in them, a totally ridiculous conclusion, that the Heathen-Hindu is possessed by the Devil, and is headed for Hell, and must be saved from his awful fate. The second challenge is, the increasing resistance & confrontation of the Hindu, which comes face to face with, the Christian aggressive non-sense, which the Christian scum-bags find difficult to deal with.
3. When confronted with this kind of resistance, the Christians take on the Persecution-Complex, and start complaining of victimization & oppression. When they are converting the Heathens ( Pagans ), they are Fat, Dumb, & Happy and take to bullying & hounding the Heathen-Hindus. But when they start losing their converts, they cry “ Foul .” It is a creepy-attitude, but is s widely practiced stratagem, by these no-good convert-seekers. Some of these scum-bags use this technique, as a ploy to lure more converts to Christianity. But when this fraud does not work, and the stream of converts stops coming, it comes as a shock to them. The confidence, security, & stability of Christianity, depends upon the continuance of the project of conversion, and on the propagation of their absurd superstition.
4. Desperate measures taken by the Christian Missionaries, such as shutting down Christian schools, running to GOI or to UN, or seeking help of Vatican are not going to redeem or rescue their spurious doctrinal world. The rights of plundering & pillaging of the Heathen-World, that they have enjoyed for centuries, are not going to be at their disposal. They might as well accept this destiny. It is a product of their evil Karma. They have been on a crusade to destroy the Hindu religion & Hindu culture in India, and it is not going to be permitted. The assault of Christianity on the Hindu, is going to be confronted by the Hindu of New India, who is not going to allow the Christians to destroy his ancient culture. He is very aware of the assault of Christianity, that happened to Greek civilization some 1500 years ago, that completely wiped out the ancient Greek culture. The Hindu is going to make sure, that does not happen to his Hinduism in India.
5. Christianity is losing in the West & is trying to make up its losses, with new converts in countries like India, who they consider as more vulnerable. Regardless of their past successes & acting aggressively ( like a wounded predator, due to their losses in the West ), the Hindu of India is waking up. He is going to lick Christianity in India. Whether the Missionaries like it or not, their time is up. No matter how many new ploys they use, their past success is not going to be repeated, any more than the return of Jesus, in the year of 2000. Jesus has no more chance of returning, than Harry Houdini ( who also promised to his admirers that he is going to return ) has. Christians would be smart to recognize the reality of life, in the new world of today, and stop pushing their non-sense & stop defending their absurd notions, in the name of Christ. Their stupidity & balderdash-baloney is not going to bestow success or too many new converts. Missionaries: Give up your devious ploys, & start earning your livelihood with honest means.
Surinder Paul Attri
THE CARDINAL-CAUSE OF CHRISTIANITY’S BELLIGERENCE
By S.P. Attri ( USA )
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1. Pursuit of converts is an exciting adventure for many Christians. It is so spine-tingling that for many of them, it is hard to get off the flutter & frenzy of it.
A recent case in point of Christian-Commotion & attendant barbarity is, the brutal killing of Swami Lakshamanananda & four of his associates, right in front of a horrified crowd of Hindus, by the faithful of Christianity in Orissa. Of course, for Christianity this is nothing new, they have done it so many times, during the last 2000 years, that they are now well-seasoned & thoroughly-accustomed, to the barbaric tools of their conversion trade.
2. Why did the Christians bring such a savage onslaught into play ? What kind of outrageous thing did Swami Lakshmanananda do to them, to trigger such a loathsome Christian response ? Swami Lakshmanananda re-converted to Hinduism some of their converts, whom they had lured into Christianity, through trickery & treachery, and now they are no longer inside their prison camp of Christianity, and that throws them down in the dumps. Swami Lakshamananada’s success also puts a dent into their crusade to destroy the Hindu civilization. It would have been surprising if the Christians had not reacted at all. After all they believe that they are doing everything in the name of Christ, and guys like Swami Lakshmananada are supporting the actions of the Devil ( Imaginary-Devil ). In their rattle-brained approach, only they have rights, Non-Christians have no rights. They cannot tolerate competition from a Heathen like Swami Lakshmananada, he had to be busted into oblivion.
3. Throughout its 2000 year old history, Christianity has been a Systematic-Persecutor of Pagan religions & Pagan people. Violent crimes of Christianity, and slaughter of hundreds of millions of Non-Christian Pagans ( and Heathens ), make no sensation or impression upon the Christians. Christians deny responsibility for their savage deeds, and transfer responsibility for their crimes, on the Pagans themselves by declaring their actions ( of defense ) as illegal and against the laws of their religion & their God. For good measure, Christians have thoroughly vilified & blackened the images of their victims, the Pagans. Most Christians have no idea at all, what their Pagan ancestors have gone through, and that their present religion of Christianity, is not their religion at all, it is an imposition on them.
4. Centuries have gone by, and we are no longer in the Middle Ages, but Christianity remains fast & furious, with no abatement in its hatred of Non-Christian religions. In fact, Christianity has become battle-hardened, no doubt through centuries of practice, and has taken to the game of conversion, with great fervor & ferocity. If Christians are reminded of Christianity’s past brutality & blood-letting of Pagans, they disavow any responsibility. They believe that any punishment of Pagans ( for not accepting Christianity ) was self-inviting & Pagans were self-condemned, they were going to Hell any way. In other words, the massacre of Pagans is treated as Defensive-Massacre by Christians & Christian-Clergy. They completely conceal the imperial motive of Christianity. Fraudulent tricks of Christianity are big-fat lies, and their blatantly-synthetic explanations are highly-suspect.
5. The basic truth, however, is that Christianity is an Abrahamic religion, it follows Bedouin manners, and at heart is savage. To give a dignified meaning to the intent or practice of Christianity, is a terrible insult & injustice to hundreds of millions of those, who have suffered barbarism of Culpable-Christianity. It also excuses colossal crimes of Slaughter, terror, & trickery that Christianity, imposed upon its Pagan victims. Christianity is a Gospel Of Hate, its claim to spirituality is spurious & contains seeds of conflict, not only with the rest of the world, but also amongst the various cults of Christianity. Christianity’s Gospel Of Hate, lies at the bottom, of all its inter-religious wars. Because the God of Christianity is cruel, belligerent & bellicose, a mutual respect, tolerance & co-existence, with Non-Christian religions, cannot be expected from followers of this Abrahamic religion.
Surinder Paul Attri
Subj: Re-Conversion of Kashmiri Moslems
1. Ravi Sarma to unitedhindufro.
show details 1:08 PM (1 hour ago) Reply
I came across this passage from Jawaharlal Nehru's " The Discovery of India", Asia Publishing House, 1961/reprint 1972/paper back/page 267, para 2:
"In Kashmir a long continued process of conversion to Islam had resulted in 95 per cent of the population becoming Moslems, though they had retained
many of their old Hindu customs. In the middle nineteenth century the Hindu ruler of the state found that very large numbers of these people were anxious or
willing to return en bloc to Hinduism. He sent a deputation to the pundits of Banares inquiring if this could be done. The pundits refused to countenance any such
change of faith and there the matter ended."
P. Ravi Sarma
September 1, 2008
2. My Take:
Indeed, we Hindus goofed.
But we are Not going to make this type of Mistake or Mis-Calculation, this time around.
3. Any Kashmiri ( or Non-Kashmiri ) Moslem, who wants to return to Hinduism, shall be on the " Honored-List " of Re-Conversion.
Surinder Paul Attri
Subj: Mighty-Mouse Jesus
1.
Message From:
diana wilson dwilsontx@yahoo. com
As a six year old, I began asking questions too and was sometimes ushered out of Sunday School.
Christianity, in fact, all religions mean...NO QUESTIONS ALLOWED....YOU WILL BE INDOCTRINATED OR GO TO HELL.
One of my first memories is to compare jesus, this bloody dead guy hanging on a stick, all beaten up....tied up, and helpless, with my favorite cartoon....Mighty Mouse. "Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his wayyyyyyyyyy! "
The point is, that as a six year old child, I couldn't understand how this bloody dead guy with his eyes closed nailed to a big stick....was a powerful god. I saw Mighty Mouse every day, and he put on his cape, flew through the air and rescued people all the time.
I never saw anything about jesus flying in to save anyone. They said he stood on a rock and passed a bunch of fishes and bread around which he magically turned into more stuff, but that did not make an impression on me. jesus never saved people from bad guys, jesus never put on his cape and flew around to keep a dam from breaking and drowning thousands of people....so what was the use of jesus? As a kid I just couldn't figure it out. Mighty Mouse could do a lot of stuff that jesus couldn't.
So in comparing Mighty Mouse and jesus....of course, MIghty Mouse won hands down. Of course, sooner or later I was brainwashed like all the other little kids...and soon forgot about Mighty Mouse.
Secretly, Mighty Mouse is still my hero of choice. In retrospect, I still don't understand how they can choose some bloody dead guy, blood dripping down his face, all beaten up, nails impaling him on a stick....who couldn't even save himself from being killed. And they want me to believe this guy is a god????? Oh pulllleeeze.
Poor jesus, he needed Mighty Mouse to come in and save him.
Hugs, Diana.
2. My Take:
Pretty Smart, Diana Wilson.
Quote: One of my first memories is to compare jesus, this bloody dead guy hanging on a stick, all beaten up....tied up, and helpless, with my favorite cartoon....Mighty Mouse. "Here I come to save the day, Mighty Mouse is on his wayyyyyyyyyy! "
COMMENT: Christians have assigned high-sounding phrases, feats, & features to Jesus Christ, but Jesus is Not what he is made out to be. Just as a tree is judged by its fruit, Jesus Christ can be decided on the nature of his Christianity. Christianity reveals itself as the most revolting & repulsive crime, and the deepest shame of Western civilization. The church has built an elaborate concept of the infallibility of Jesus, when in fact Jesus is quite a questionable character, and is the creator of Christianity’s horrible history. Psychologists would diagnose Mighty-Mouse Jesus as a Sickie ( mentally sick man ).
3. Quote: The point is, that as a six year old child, I couldn't understand how this bloody dead guy with his eyes closed nailed to a big stick....was a powerful god. I saw Mighty Mouse every day, and he put on his cape, flew through the air and rescued people all the time.
COMMENT: The concept of a powerful god, assigned by the church to Jesus, is the Big Lie technique used by the church, to propagate their superstitious nonsense. Smart people cannot give quarter to this dark figure ( Mighty-Mouse Jesus ), even less to his darker-doctrines. The West seems to have seen through the hollowness of Christianity’s claims. That is why Christianity is collapsing in the West, as can be viewed from the progressively declining number of believing Christians in the West.
4. Quote: I never saw anything about jesus flying in to save anyone. They said he stood on a rock and passed a bunch of fishes and bread around which he magically turned into more stuff, but that did not make an impression on me. jesus never saved people from bad guys, jesus never put on his cape and flew around to keep a dam from breaking and drowning thousands of people....so what was the use of jesus? As a kid I just couldn't figure it out. Mighty Mouse could do a lot of stuff that jesus couldn't.
COMMENT: How could Mighty-Mouse Jesus, the Jesus of fiction, fly in the air or save anyone, when he could not even wipe his own A** ? When nailed on the cross, he cried Uncle ( Daddy ). When Daddy did not arrive, he had to compose himself as a cheat, as a failed Jewish revolutionary, a leader of bandits who was executed by the Romans. Anyone who believes the meaningless & ludicrous stories about Mighty-Mouse Jesus, can believe anything.
5. Quote: So in comparing Mighty Mouse and jesus....of course, MIghty Mouse won hands down. Of course, sooner or later I was brainwashed like all the other little kids...and soon forgot about Mighty Mouse.
COMMENT: Super-Mouse or Mighty-Mouse, with a blue cape or yellow cape, is much more powerful & invulnerable, compared with Jesus of fiction. Here comes the Mighty-Mouse to save the day. Jesus did not have much capability, except as a lover of Mary Magdalene or a hedonistic libertine.
6. Quote: Secretly, Mighty Mouse is still my hero of choice. In retrospect, I still don't understand how they can choose some bloody dead guy, blood dripping down his face, all beaten up, nails impaling him on a stick....who couldn't even save himself from being killed. And they want me to believe this guy is a god????? Oh pulllleeeze.
COMMENT: The imbeciles of the church frequently suspend the laws of nature, for the benefit of Jesus & of the church, rather than engage in the laborious work of investigation. The darkness of their passion, concocts cock-and-bull stories & characteristics about Mighty-Mouse Jesus, characteristics that he did not possess.
7. Quote: Poor jesus, he needed Mighty Mouse to come in and save him.
COMMENT: Truth is what is missing from the stories of Mighty-Mouse Jesus, concocted by the church. Yes, Mighty Mouse comes in handy to save Jesus, although Jesus is Not aware of Mighty-Mouse’s doing.
Surinder Paul Attri
1. Christians to form militia : Church leader
31 Aug, 2008, 1325 hrs IST, IANS
NEW DELHI:
A Church leader from Orissa warned Sunday that the Christians in the state will raise a militia . "All that the governments have been doing, both in the state and at the centre, is paint an illusion. Beautiful, but hollow words is all they have to offer. We will form our own 'Suraksha Vahini'," the priest told IANS on condition of anonymity.
The priest, who is based in Bhubaneshwar and who reached New Delhi Aug 26, said he did not want to be quoted by name. He spoke in the church premises in the heart of the capital.
The Church leader might be in a delegation set to meet President Pratibha Patil Monday. He said, however, that not many were hopeful. "We met the prime minister, the home minister and will meet the president tomorrow. However, I have my doubts that anything fruitful will come out of it. All that we keep getting are fine words that 'this will be done and tha t will be done'.
Orissa has been on the boil since the killing of a Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) leader and four others Aug 23 by the religious Fantics sparked off a wave of violence that has left many dead. Hundreds of people have fled their homes.
Hindu groups in the state stated that Christians killed Saraswati because he opposed religious conversion.
2. My Take:
Quote: A Church leader from Orissa warned Sunday that the Christians in the state will raise a militia . "All that the governments have been doing, both in the state and at the centre, is paint an illusion. Beautiful, but hollow words is all they have to offer. We will form our own 'Suraksha Vahini'," the priest told IANS on condition of anonymity.
COMMENT: This kind of statement, issued by the big-wigs of the church, subsequent to the slaughter of Swami Lakshmanananda & four of his associates, in front of a horrified crowd of Hindus, is for the Hindus:
“ A welcome to Hell. “
Its intention is not protection, but aggression & getting away with murder of Swami Lakshkananada.
3. Quote: The priest, who is based in Bhubaneshwar and who reached New Delhi Aug 26, said he did not want to be quoted by name. He spoke in the church premises in the heart of the capital.
COMMENT: Hindu society has been facing aggression from Christianity, for at least 500 years, with the result that now Christian converts in Orissa ( & in NE India ), feel strong enough to form a militia & mount a series of violent crimes against the Hindu. Hindu society has suffered colossal losses in terms of people, territory, & property et al. The motives & tricks of Christianity are all dangerous. Jesus Christ was running his mouth:
“ I came to set the earth on fire…Do you suppose I came to bring peace to the world ? No, not peace, but division…..”
Hindus cannot be expected to let the Christian beat the hell out of the Hindu, and let his barbarism go un-challenged.,
4. Quote:. Orissa has been on the boil since the killing of a Vishwa Hindu Parishad (VHP) leader and four others Aug 23 by the religious Fantics sparked off a wave of violence that has left many dead. Hundreds of people have fled their homes
COMMENT: Yes, Orissa has been on the boil, and not without reason either.
What are the Hindus of Orissa supposed to do ? Congratulate the Christians for their violent crime ?
En Masse assertiveness shown by the Hindus of Orissa, is a warning to the Christians that their Hindu victim, is waking up to their treachery, and will not tolerate another stabbing.
5. Quote: Hindu groups in the state stated that Christians killed Saraswati because he opposed religious conversion.
COMMENT: The Christians believe that theirs is the only true religion, and they alone have the right to convert. This is an important clue to their position, which is a one-way street, in which only they have rights, and Heathen Hindus have no similar rights. Since Swami Lakshmananada was re-converting converted Christians back to Hinduism, it was un-acceptable to the Christians. Consequently, Swami Lakshmananada had to be eliminated and eliminated he was. It is now more than clear that, what the Christians want is, a re-assurance of their one-way right to convert, without a corresponding right of the Hindus, to re-convert converted Christians to Hinduism. But there is no likelihood of the Hindu accepting this Christian nonsense ( of one-ways street right ).
6. One of these days, the justice system will catch up to the crimes of Christianity.
Surinder Paul Attri
Like the word 'jihadist', the term 'Muslim world' equally refers to the war of conquest which the Mohammedans wish to force upon the West. In Arabic, it is 'Dar al Islam' - the Domain of Islam - whereas the rest of the world is called 'Dar al Harb', or the Domain of War. Thus, the expression 'Muslim world' legitimizes the Mohammedan idea that some countries still need to be conquered and/or subdued.
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